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Title: Podcasting with Talkshoe and Skype Part Three
Post by: Rob on May 10, 2010, 04:56:30 AM
This is part three of a three part article. You can find part one here (http://forum.webcomicscommunity.com/index.php/topic,381.0.html) and you can find part two here (http://forum.webcomicscommunity.com/index.php/topic,418.0.html).

I'm going to be straight with you right up front. Most of you won't get anything out of this third installment. Even those of you who go on to have podcasts won't get much out of this unless you are willing to invest a considerable chunk of money and time into the craft. What's more, my skills are out of date. So a lot of what I may be telling you may also be somewhat out of date. But I'm going to share what I know with you anyway because it might help some of you and because were I to do the best quality podcast I could do; this is the way I would do it.

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Yes I use all this crap. Pardon the dust. The Grifball Halo Figure is the baddest MC... and if you got that you are almost as big a nerd as a guy who owns a Grifball Halo Figure.

So you've got your show up and running and you are starting to build a fan base but the more people who listen the more complaints you get about sound quality. What's more, you're co-host has become an actual co-host and you now have a team of people moderating the chat room with a team leader manning the controls and you're having trouble hearing all of them.

What do you do?

I've been working with audio in one way or another for about ten years. There are a lot of recording programs out there of varying complexities and prices. But I'm not even going to get into that because I simply don't know anything about them. I started off with a Sonar 2XL (http://www.cakewalk.com/) which is today's equivalent of Sonar 8.5 Producer Edition. I stayed with them up until Sonar 5 Producer Edition which I still use today. I can say with absolute certainty that for a podcast you do not need this level of complexity. Cakewalk does make a home version of the Sonar software and that may be more your speed. But as complex as they are the more complex programs sure are nice if you know how to use them.

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OMG Soooo many Tracks!

I'm completely self taught (and I'm a poor teacher) but I've had a lot of fun and what I have learned has given me the means to do more with less. I'll put up a couple samples of the audio I've worked on in the discussion thread. The point is, I know what it's like to want to up my game with audio and I know how to do it... even on a budget.

If you've decided to take your show to the next level there are a number of ways you can go. But they all pretty much involve you dropping some coin.




The learning curve on these recording solutions gets progressively steeper with the last one requiring you know a bit about audio engineering as well as an extensive knowledge of your chosen software and its capabilities. But if you can put it all together you can sound like a professional recording studio. My equipment was worth about $5,000 or so all told (when I bought most of it 5 or so years ago) but it allows me to create nearly professional quality recordings in basements, living rooms and bedrooms. The acoustics aren't always ideal and if you can afford it something like Auralex (http://www.auralex.com/) would really round out that professional sound. But most of us can't glue a bunch of foam to the walls.

I have put together similar setups for friends for less than $1,500. My stuff is more than I would need to do a podcast, even one as complex as what I've described in the "whole hog" scenario. My audio card for example cost me over $700, has a breakout box and enough inputs to mike an entire band playing live or if I'm trying to do something more studio like I could completely mic an entire drum kit and record nearly every drum hit individually. So you shouldn't think you have to drop 5 grand to do what I can. Technology has improved and prices have dropped over the last five years. Not to mention that when it comes to gear a place like Daddy's Junky Music (http://www.daddys.com/) can really help out. And if you already own a computer or computers you can cut that $1,500 in half.

What it really comes down to is finding equipment and programs you understand and can make do the things you want to do and then pushing that setup to a maximum performance. It requires some patience and you will undoubtedly experience some technical difficulties along the way but as I said before if I can do it so can you.

Good luck!
Title: Re: Podcasting with Talkshoe and Skype Part Three
Post by: Rob on May 10, 2010, 05:15:24 AM
As promised here is some audio I've recorded with this equipment over the years.

This first song is something from my old college band. It's pretty mellow. Try not to slip into a coma.

The song is called "Still." (http://www.mediafire.com/?nzm2zz2mjvn)

I think we recorded that about seven years or so go (the band continued after college ended) in a pool house that was converted into a one room efficiency apartment. The bed was also a futon! Initially the recording was done with some crappy microphones on a Boss BR-8 digital recorder that recorded music on 100 GB mini discs. I then converted the files and imported them into Sonar for editing and engineering. Neither of these recordings have ever been mastered and they are certainly amateur hour but I never claimed to be the next Phil Specter. For my limited means though I think we did pretty good.

This next song is by a band called "Asking Amy" that came to me desperate to get a three song demo ready for a record label they were going to meet. Since you've never heard of them you can probably figure how the meeting went. Considering what I was able to do in a week though you would have thought I could walk on water. Especially since the "band" consisted of one guitar player, one singer and a tap in drum machine. Oh... and none of the songs were done. And by done I mean neither the words or music was completely written for any of the songs. It was a good time though.

Prepare to be generically rocked out by "How to Talk to Strangers." (http://www.mediafire.com/?dzdm3idnzym)

I actually preferred the name "God is My Co-Pilot" because the singer (who wrote the lyrics) said the song had something to do with the Catholic Church. He liked my suggestion. Not enough to use it. But he said he liked it. Prick.

This was recorded with pretty much the equipment I have now; in my living room. The way I had it set up though... my neighbors never heard a thing.

Sorry for the pop ups and whatnot. File sharing any music... even your own isn't easy on the intertubes these days. Mediafire was my best choice in a bad situation.

If you ever want to listen to my old Grifball Podcasts to see how I did it (and all the many things I did wrong) you can catch it here. (http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=16254&cmd=tc)

All the shows seem to still be available although lord only knows why. The Grifball League is entering it's eighth season or so, has had an exclusive animated series on XBox Live, two world championship competitions at PAX and is still going strong. I can't imagine anyone has any use for these old shows. It's nice for me to see what I helped start though.