Webcomics Community

Main Content => Art => Topic started by: Dr. BlkKnight on January 20, 2010, 10:35:07 AM

Title: Art Progression
Post by: Dr. BlkKnight on January 20, 2010, 10:35:07 AM
With the new year underway and such, I have a tendency to look back at my older work when creating new folders and such for the next year's artwork (gotta keep this stuff organized somehow). When I look back at the older years, I realize how far my abilities (and characters) evolved. Some of my characters went from retina-burning monstrosities to the characters I use today in my comics. I figured I'd at least get the ball rolling and ask what any of you think of your general art progression. Has it been a slow, arduous process? Were you always super-talented?

Later, I'll dig up some of my "classics" for laughs and retina-burning :P
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Alectric on January 20, 2010, 10:54:10 AM
I've you've read my comic, you know what a drastic improvement my current storyline (fourth) is over my first.  This progression was aided of course by my not having had much practice drawing, and having no webcomic-making experience when I first started.  I upped the art quality so much and so quickly, however, that I overshot my ability to make a page twice a week.  It's the frustrating perfectionist in me.  I can't seem to settle for lesser quality, but I'm going to have to try, because once a week is NOT working out. >:(

I just recently saw Jeph Jacques of Questionable Content do a livestream, and I damn near cried.  S-so fast.  If I were to record myself working, and then played it back at twice the speed, it'd still be way slower.  I'm sure he has the equipment and knowhow to make his work ridiculously efficient, but MAN...

Then again, I've learned a lot of techniques myself, so it won't be a complete step backwards for me.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: raerae on January 20, 2010, 10:58:42 AM
This (http://raerae.deviantart.com/art/RaeRae-s-Improvement-2002-2006-33347226) is an image I made for my 2002-2006 progression. Since I think I've mostly been improving in smaller increments. ^^; I've gotten better at drawing the face, and better at certain media.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: TTallan on January 20, 2010, 11:48:24 AM
Ooh! Ooh! I did one of these last year. But, my quick answer to the original question-- yes, it was and still is a slowwwww and arduous process.

(http://www.galaxioncomics.com/Aria1pageRetrospective.gif)

Before you ask, I was 12 when I drew the first one (so now you can all do the math and figure out how old I am). It didn't officially become a comic until 1992-- before that I was writing a novel, and I just drew pictures to go along with it. Also, if some of you weren't even alive when I started, I don't wanna hear about it.  ;)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Pete on January 20, 2010, 12:44:03 PM
Doing a comic on a deadline is one of the best ways to improve your artwork (well, for some of us; I can rattle off a handful of artists who don't seem to have gone as far as they could in terms of art over the years).  My only formal training in art was the classes I took in high school.  Everything else was learned on the fly.

It always makes me laugh to look at my very first comic and compare it to the one I did most recently.  It's such a huge difference that I can't help but be amused by it.

I do want to point out that I think doing other types of artwork outside of my comic greatly helped me (in fact, with my comic, I don't draw as well as I actually can; I try to do the best I can at a speed that will allow me to keep moving forward).  Getting familiar with the way you draw your characters is great, but it also helps to step outside of that and draw other people and things.  It gives your art muscles a nice workout.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: mattstout on January 20, 2010, 02:00:46 PM
I've been sketching my characters for about ten years now, but I've only done a regular, deadline comic for almost two years.  Here's the earliest sketch I can find of much of my cast:

(http://www.bigsandygilmore.com/oldcast.png)

And here is a sketch I did recently of my characters as Batman characters that I feel to be pretty representative of my work now:

(http://www.bigsandygilmore.com/batcast.png)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Alectric on January 20, 2010, 04:14:13 PM
Quote from: Pete on January 20, 2010, 12:44:03 PM
It always makes me laugh to look at my very first comic and compare it to the one I did most recently.  It's such a huge difference that I can't help but be amused by it.

...Can we see?
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Pete on January 21, 2010, 09:25:15 AM
Quote from: Alectric on January 20, 2010, 04:14:13 PM...Can we see?

Oh, sure!  Sorry, I guess I was a bit lazy yesterday.

Number 1:
(http://www.bardsworth.com/strips/001.png)

Number 517 (just posted today):
(http://www.bardsworth.com/strips/517.png)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Mari on January 21, 2010, 08:37:10 PM
I used to try to draw anime so hard  :'( ...and yet I just couldn't get my disproportions of the human body to be as much fun as it is in anime. So I gave up.

Case in point:

Aaron the tree guy in 2003
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Mari-3/2003.jpg)

...and Aaron the tree guy now:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v113/Mari-3/Aaron_2009.jpg)

I'd say the only thing they really have in common is a blatant lack of respect for borders and gutters. >_<
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: TTallan on January 21, 2010, 09:11:23 PM
OK, wow. Mari, I am in awe. What a difference!


Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Nuke on January 21, 2010, 09:37:28 PM
Before:
(http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/5129/art1o.jpg)

After:
(http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3774/art2.jpg)

Yeah... yeah, that about sums it up.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: raerae on January 21, 2010, 11:33:53 PM
Since I really only posted pin-ups before, I dug around and found my first attempt at a webcomic.

Behold the dreaded gaming comic (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/gfx_raerae/maelsturn.jpg)
vs.
Something I finished today (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v253/gfx_raerae/evil_overlord_kitty_f.jpg)

Mari: Your style change is awesome. Oh, and I love runes. >_>
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Xade on January 22, 2010, 02:52:24 AM
I really need to dig out my old scketchbooks. I was actually quite the artist in school, and had my own style that the teacher hated because it just wasnt the standard way of doing it, but it worked really well. I never started out with the familiar shapes that others did, I would draw faint guidelines like a little mark for the head top, bottom then the other parts. Draw the top part of the arm, for it was the straightest then the bottom then add definition, ect. It drove my teacher CRAZY watching me draw and many times she had me try the standard way but it never turned out as nice. But then I lost my memories and my old skill. I only know about it because I used to keep an art journal with notes on how I did what I did. Strangely, although I tried a few times, I could not rediscover my old style as an adult.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: GaborBoth on January 22, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
http://gaborboth.deviantart.com/art/Art-improvement-quot-meme-07-09-149449343 (http://gaborboth.deviantart.com/art/Art-improvement-quot-meme-07-09-149449343)
That's my art ,,improvement" meme on dArt. Only three years instead the standard 7, because I wasn't drawing for long (with actually trying), but whatever.
I'm never ever satisfied with the art I do. I can look at a drawing I finished an hour ago and spot all the mistakes, BIG mistakes and I feel as a complete beginner all the time.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Xade on January 22, 2010, 08:56:19 AM
Quote from: GaborBoth on January 22, 2010, 08:23:08 AM
... I feel as a complete beginner all the time.

Join the club, I often do that in ed comicing too ;) Like the bush I am supposed to be working on, I look at it and see many noob mistakes and have to go back in and fix it. Vote on my site to see a preview of it ;)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Alectric on January 22, 2010, 06:00:55 PM
Raerae, those are quite funny!  And your old comic looked like it had potential.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: raerae on January 22, 2010, 11:30:18 PM
X3 Thanks, Alectric! I did like think the comic had potential, but I certainly wasn't able to pull it off at that current skill level, I think.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Yamino on January 23, 2010, 09:23:04 AM
Quote from: TTallan on January 20, 2010, 11:48:24 AMBefore you ask, I was 12 when I drew the first one (so now you can all do the math and figure out how old I am).

WHOAH.  I am really impressed by your improvement- you have such a modern-looking style, I could have sword you were my age.  (I'm the same age as Lady Gaga! That's my hint. XD She's also not the age most people would assume, though...)

I'm also really amazed that you've been working on the SAME STORY since your were 12!  I would never have that much patience or dedication.  You deserve some kind of award or something. O_O

As for my own progression, I recently did that "art improvement meme":
(http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/7079/improvementmeme20032009.jpg) (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2010/005/a/9/Improvement_Meme_2003_2009_by_Yamino.jpg)

But if you're interested in seeing how the "Sister Claire" style has evolved, check out this really old concept art:
(http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5273/gal1g.jpg)(http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/6361/gal5.jpg)

You can see the refinement the comic's style has gone through if you compare those designs to a recent drawing of Claire:
(http://www.sisterclaire.com/comics/2009-06-25-lying.jpg)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Miluette on February 01, 2010, 10:24:14 AM
I made this walkthrough of my art from 1998+ (http://ai.senshuu.com/art/walk.php) in 2006. I'm thinking of updating it soon...when I make more art that isn't just pinups.

A quick example of improvement:

Millennium in the beginning
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/senshuu/quick/0006.jpg)

Millennium a kind of long time ago
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/senshuu/quick/0056.jpg)

Millennium in 2008
(http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c146/senshuu/quick/millennium-00-02.jpg)

I feel like I've improved vastly since 2008, too...so I need to update MUCH more quickly.
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: amanda on February 02, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
I haven't been drawing very long - just since 2007.  But here's mine =D
(http://www.salttheholly.com/progression.jpg)
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: teh hchano on February 09, 2010, 01:49:14 PM
Omg I love looking at stuff like this lmao xDD It's so fun to
check yourself to see how far you've come :3

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/images/i/2002/50/4/4/shes_taking_my_breath_away.jpg)
lol @ his face omg WHAR UR TEETH GUY?.... from 2002...

(http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/341/b/e/be10e4f55c20aed83c7b9ac8a8174162.jpg)
newest pic i have of the same charas together lol [unless i
wanna post comic pages lol].. from oct last year.

And just for giggles, traditional art too:

Oldest traditional pic I could find online...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v43/hchano/vixinasuit.jpg)
from 2000 lol... off my angelfire account lmao. *die@it*

newest traditional work [from back in dec..]:
(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2009/346/6/4/hairy_angel_thing___colour_by_hchan.png)
couldn't find a pic of her solo so just went with the latest trad art ... :[



I can telling hanging out at this place is gonna be a wild time sink...
having to catch up on so many comics hjdfshfjkhfsdk whyyyy
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: amanda on February 09, 2010, 02:19:35 PM
Teh Hchano, I adore that last picture you posted - stunning!
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: Funderbunk on February 09, 2010, 04:04:26 PM
Yeah, it's really good!

What did you make it with?
Title: Re: Art Progression
Post by: teh hchano on February 09, 2010, 07:15:31 PM
Thanks!! It's markers, coloured pencils and then whiteout...
used in that order xDD Sadly my scanner ate a lot of the colour :[
I need a new one... I haven't bothered to scan anything since xD